Beth Sarim

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  Yearbook - will they drop figures that show a decline?

  by freddo in

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  do you think the yearbooks will stop showing negative information as the numbers stagnate or even drop?

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  Increasing or Decreasing in numbers. They always seem to put a spin on things that the GT is fast approaching either way. And the rank and file buy it.
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  Redefining "fair"

  by wifibandit in

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  in light of all the reassignments, i can't help but feel that this directed to those who gave their lives and now are being kicked out.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uou-fbkg0y.

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  It's evident that they don't practise what they preach.
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  Only 144,000 saved in 2000 years?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i phoned an elder in the cong and asked him: "when did the calling for the great crowd start, was it 1935?

  he said, "no, i think i remember a convention talk about 1950.

  " so anyway, i said, "so then let's say in the 20th century right?

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  That scripture in Revelation where it talks about the anointed, the speaker who was giving the talks would always skip from being ''figurative'' about similar verses then ''literal'' to the verse about the 144,000. C'mon, everything in the book of Revelation is, FIGURATIVE!!
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  Only 144,000 saved in 2000 years?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i phoned an elder in the cong and asked him: "when did the calling for the great crowd start, was it 1935?

  he said, "no, i think i remember a convention talk about 1950.

  " so anyway, i said, "so then let's say in the 20th century right?

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  The 144,000 doctrine has got to be one of the most terribly flawed doctrines the JW's teach, right up there with that ''half-wit'' blood doctrine.
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  The fade did not work

  by BeautifulMind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  not long after learning ttatt, my hubby and i decided it would be best for us to fade.

  his entire family is in, but not in the same cong.

  we made it to the region convention and one sunday meeting after that.

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  Fading is like an art. For many it does take patience and planning, I know it's very tough but over time it works out.
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  How Cultish are the JW's?

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first off, i certainly agree the jw's are a cult.

  but i'm sensitive to black-and-white thinking now.. so, where do they rank on the scale?

  think of a cultish religion scale from 0-10.. consider the likes of unitarian universalism vs baptist vs amish vs charles manson.. where do you think jw's fall on the scale?.

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  That blood doctrine is a terrible one, dangerous. I'll stand to be corrected, but from what I've understand a blood transfusion procedure was not performed until within the last century or so, I think I'm not sure of the exact timeline I read it a few years ago.

  So, if that's the case, that scripture in Acts was referring simply to injesting/eating blood. How in hell would someone be able to attempt a blood transfusion in bible times is just beyond me.
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

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  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  So much paranoia, I'm sure it makes people feel very tired.....leading to much depression.
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  Scrutinizing the teaching of Jesus Christ year 1874 vs 1914

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as the date of return of the lord jesus christ and the beginning of his invisible presence or parousia.

  what, then, about the parousia (presence) of christ?

  so a.d. 1914 marks the time of christs invisible return in spirit.

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  1874 or 1914, it's hard to put a finger on it. Realistically, it hasn't even happened yet because it's said every eye will see Him and we wouldn't have to ponder when He reappears.
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  This takes the cake

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today during the public talk the speaker said that satan was behind the new modern phones, which are like mini computers, so that the world would have easy access to pornography..

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  Beth Sarim

  Of course Satan is behind the new modern smart phones. Because smart phones are in this world, and the entire world in under the ''control of the wicked one''.
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  Beth Sarim

  I forgot to mention that the JW's probably have 2 levels of shunning. The first one is pre-emptive shunning, when you aren't DF'd yet, but you are treated like one in public or anywhere where the Dubs snub you avoid making eye contact etc. The 2nd level is the full blown Borg enforced DF'd induced shunning. Now this is when every J-Dub alive, including your family who is not living in your house, will ignore you.